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You01:05 PM
let's build a deck around dreadfast demon and virtue of persistence the plan is to have cheap and midrange creatures with powerful etb and/or ltb abilities. they will do some decent work as build up our mana for the expensive demon and enchantment spells. when virtue fires it can bring back the etb/ltb creatures for benefits on enter or when our demon sacrifices them. a nice bonus for the deck would be a way to cheat the dreadfast demon in early. rest of the deck should focus on trying to make all that happen consistently/each game.
ManaDork01:06 PM
Pick a direction — reply with the name of the one you want. I'll build it from your collection only.
1. Mono-Black Persistence Engine — (B) Black · midrange Fair-to-grindy mono-(B) Black midrange: cheap ETB/LTB value bodies and self-reanimators feed Dreadfeast Demon's end-step sac for Demon copies, while Virtue of Persistence loops the best creatures every upkeep; interaction and card draw keep you alive until the engine is online. Key cards: Dreadfeast Demon, Virtue of Persistence, Zulaport Cutthroat, Sheoldred, Woe Strider
Dreadfeast Demon
Virtue of Persistence // Locthwain Scorn
Zulaport Cutthroat
Sheoldred // The True Scriptures
Woe Strider
2. Golgari Ramp into Demons — (B) Black/(G) Green · ramp Green acceleration and land ramp cheat Dreadfeast Demon and Virtue of Persistence ahead of curve; midrange ETB creatures (including recursive ones like Mosswood Dreadknight) hold the board and become fuel/payoffs once the Demon and Virtue resolve. Key cards: Dreadfeast Demon, Virtue of Persistence, Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, Cultivate, Finale of Devastation
Dreadfeast Demon
Virtue of Persistence // Locthwain Scorn
Mosswood Dreadknight // Dread Whispers
Llanowar Elves
Elvish Mystic
Cultivate
Finale of Devastation
3. Golgari Food Loop Value — (B) Black/(G) Green · midrange Cauldron Familiar + Witch's Oven (and related sac/food pieces) create a low-curve death loop that drains, fuels revolt-style removal, and gives Dreadfeast Demon free non-Demon fodder while Virtue of Persistence steals or recurs the best bodies; green adds ramp and sticky threats. Key cards: Dreadfeast Demon, Virtue of Persistence, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven, Trail of Crumbs, Prosperous Innkeeper
Cauldron Familiar
Witch's Oven
Dreadfeast Demon
Virtue of Persistence // Locthwain Scorn
Trail of Crumbs
Prosperous Innkeeper
Heads-up: the name Dreadfast Demon matched no card in the database or your collection, so nothing by that name is in these directions. If it matters to the deck, check the spelling and tell me.
You01:09 PM
Build the Golgari Food Loop Value deck.
ManaDork01:11 PM
Golgari Food Loop Value (Pioneer) — built from your collection around Dreadfeast Demon and Virtue of Persistence.
Dreadfeast Demon
Virtue of Persistence // Locthwain Scorn
Game plan. Early Witch's Oven + Cauldron Familiar (and Food makers Vinereap Mentor, Prosperous Innkeeper, Greta, Sweettooth Scourge) loop death triggers for Zulaport Cutthroat drain and free fodder. Deadly Dispute turns Food/creatures into cards + Treasure. Dorks accelerate into the 7-drops: Demon sacs non-Demons for Demon tokens; Virtue rebuys ETB/LTB pieces (and Adventure for -3/-3). Plan (B) Black is sticky midrange + drain if the bombs die.
Witch's Oven
Cauldron Familiar
Vinereap Mentor
Prosperous Innkeeper
Greta, Sweettooth Scourge
Zulaport Cutthroat
Deadly Dispute
Curve note. CMC 1–2 is deliberately high for the Food/sac loop and dorks (engine density over textbook midrange curve). Top end is 3+3 of the two build-arounds (above the default 7+ cell) because they *are* the win condition. CMC 4–6 is light: Sheoldred is cut for copy limits/space; value sits at 2–3 and 7.
Sheoldred // The True Scriptures
Roles. Spot removal: Fatal Push (revolt off Oven/loop) + Heartless Act. Draw: Dispute + Greta Food sac. Ramp: full dork package. Disruption: Thoughtseize. Recursion: Mosswood adventure, Virtue, Demon tokens.
Fatal Push
Heartless Act
Thoughtseize
Mana. 24 lands to the computed band; duals from collection + basics for BB/GG.
Creatures(18)
Cauldron Familiar50Cauldron Familiar, quality 50
Elvish Mystic50Elvish Mystic, 4 copies, quality 50
Llanowar Elves50Llanowar Elves, 2 copies, quality 50
Vinereap Mentor50Vinereap Mentor, 3 copies, quality 50
Prosperous Innkeeper50Prosperous Innkeeper, 2 copies, quality 50
Zulaport Cutthroat50Zulaport Cutthroat, 2 copies, quality 50
Greta, Sweettooth Scourge50Greta, Sweettooth Scourge, quality 50
Dreadfeast Demon50Dreadfeast Demon, 3 copies, quality 50
1xCauldron Familiar
4xElvish Mystic
2xLlanowar Elves
3xVinereap Mentor
2xProsperous Innkeeper1
2xZulaport Cutthroat1
1xGreta, Sweettooth Scourge1
3xDreadfeast Demon5
Instants(8)
Fatal Push50Fatal Push, 4 copies, quality 50
Deadly Dispute50Deadly Dispute, 2 copies, quality 50
Heartless Act50Heartless Act, 2 copies, quality 50
4xFatal Push
2xDeadly Dispute1
2xHeartless Act1
Sorceries(2)
Thoughtseize50Thoughtseize, 2 copies, quality 50
2xThoughtseize
Artifacts(3)
Witch's Oven50Witch's Oven, 3 copies, quality 50
3xWitch's Oven1
Lands(21)
Llanowar Wastes50Llanowar Wastes, 4 copies, quality 50
Deathcap Glade50Deathcap Glade, 4 copies, quality 50
Blooming Marsh50Blooming Marsh, 2 copies, quality 50
Necroblossom Snarl50Necroblossom Snarl, quality 50
Wastewood Verge50Wastewood Verge, quality 50
Swamp50Swamp, 4 copies, quality 50
Forest50Forest, 5 copies, quality 50
4xLlanowar Wastes
4xDeathcap Glade
2xBlooming Marsh
1xNecroblossom Snarl
1xWastewood Verge
4xSwamp
5xForest
Other(8)
2xMosswood Dreadknight
3xVirtue of Persistence
3xDarkbore Pathway
60 cardsAvg CMC: 1.6
Collection caps used: Familiar own 1, Oven own 3, Thoughtseize own 2, Zulaport own 2, Mosswood own 3 (playing 2), Greta own 4 (playing 1 for curve), Demon/Virtue own 4 (playing 3). Basics free.
Thoughtseize
If you want more mid-curve (e.(G) Green. Woe Strider, Glissa Sunslayer, second Greta) or a 15-card sideboard next, say what to swap.
Woe Strider
Glissa Sunslayer
You01:27 PM
that played decent ty, but it needs more tutor or draw or search, i got one virtue very late game and no dreadfeast demon
ManaDork01:27 PM
Fix: more dig and hard tutors so you actually see Dreadfeast Demon / Virtue of Persistence.
Dreadfeast Demon
Virtue of Persistence // Locthwain Scorn
In: 4 Deadly Dispute (Food/Oven fodder → 2 + Treasure), 2 Diabolic Intent (sac a token/dork → any card, including Virtue), 2 Finale of Devastation (tutor Demon onto the battlefield), 1 Phyrexian Arena, 1 Woe Strider (scry on sac), 2 Castle Locthwain (late draw sink).
Deadly Dispute
Diabolic Intent
Finale of Devastation
Phyrexian Arena
Woe Strider
Castle Locthwain
Out: 2 Fatal Push, 2 Heartless Act, 1 Greta, Sweettooth Scourge, 1 Vinereap Mentor, 1 Prosperous Innkeeper, 1 Zulaport Cutthroat, 1 Forest (trim to 60).
Fatal Push
Heartless Act
Greta, Sweettooth Scourge
Vinereap Mentor
Prosperous Innkeeper
Zulaport Cutthroat
Forest
Commune with Spirits digs for Virtue (enchantment) or land. Curve still skewed low for the loop; 7-drops stay intentional. Spot removal is lighter (~5) — intentional trade for consistency.
Commune with Spirits
Creatures(15)
Cauldron Familiar50Cauldron Familiar, quality 50
Elvish Mystic50Elvish Mystic, 4 copies, quality 50
Llanowar Elves50Llanowar Elves, 2 copies, quality 50
Vinereap Mentor50Vinereap Mentor, 2 copies, quality 50
Prosperous Innkeeper50Prosperous Innkeeper, quality 50
Zulaport Cutthroat50Zulaport Cutthroat, quality 50
Woe Strider50Woe Strider, quality 50
Dreadfeast Demon50Dreadfeast Demon, 3 copies, quality 50
1xCauldron Familiar
4xElvish Mystic
2xLlanowar Elves
2xVinereap Mentor
1xProsperous Innkeeper1
1xZulaport Cutthroat1
1xWoe Strider2
3xDreadfeast Demon5
Instants(6)
Fatal Push50Fatal Push, 2 copies, quality 50
Deadly Dispute50Deadly Dispute, 4 copies, quality 50
2xFatal Push
4xDeadly Dispute1
Sorceries(6)
Thoughtseize50Thoughtseize, 2 copies, quality 50
Diabolic Intent50Diabolic Intent, 2 copies, quality 50
Finale of Devastation50Finale of Devastation, 2 copies, quality 50
2xThoughtseize
2xDiabolic Intent1
2xFinale of DevastationX
Enchantments(1)
Phyrexian Arena50Phyrexian Arena, quality 50
1xPhyrexian Arena1
Artifacts(3)
Witch's Oven50Witch's Oven, 3 copies, quality 50
3xWitch's Oven1
Lands(21)
Llanowar Wastes50Llanowar Wastes, 4 copies, quality 50
Deathcap Glade50Deathcap Glade, 4 copies, quality 50
Blooming Marsh50Blooming Marsh, 2 copies, quality 50
Necroblossom Snarl50Necroblossom Snarl, quality 50
Wastewood Verge50Wastewood Verge, quality 50
Castle Locthwain50Castle Locthwain, 2 copies, quality 50
Swamp50Swamp, 3 copies, quality 50
Forest50Forest, 4 copies, quality 50
4xLlanowar Wastes
4xDeathcap Glade
2xBlooming Marsh
1xNecroblossom Snarl
1xWastewood Verge
2xCastle Locthwain
3xSwamp
4xForest
Other(8)
2xMosswood Dreadknight
3xVirtue of Persistence
3xDarkbore Pathway
60 cardsAvg CMC: 1.7
Auto-correction notes: - Trimmed 1(s) from over-served roles: Commune with Spirits (-1)
Commune with Spirits